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Russia Sends Troops to Syria. Greeks Remain with Euro Temporarily. Young Man Slain Outside of Orlando Club. Jack Osbourne, Son of Ozzie Osbourne, has Multiple Sclerosis. Congressman Paul Ryan Taking Heat from Group of Catholic Nuns. Singer Alanis Morisette Defends Her Parenting Style. Man Saves Woman from Burning Car then Flees. Defense of Jerry Sandusky Called Their First Witness.
Aired June 18, 2012 - 14:00 ET
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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Suzanne, thank you so much.
Hello to all of you, I'm Brooke Baldwin, just in here on the heels of this CNN report that a small number of Russian troops are now headed to Syria on board this cargo ship. In fact, just moments ago Senator John McCain talked about the risks. Take a listen.
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SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZ.: And now we hear reports today of even actually Russian troops being possibly moved into Syria versus people who are basically without any real means to defend themselves. It's not a fair fight. It's not a civil war because all the military strength is on one side and not the other. At least we ought to give them a chance to have a fair fight.
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BALDWIN: Senator John McCain speaking there before the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. Now keep in mind, the backdrop, the leaders here of the U.S. and Russia, they are in Mexico right now, talking about the world economy.
Obviously they are discussing Syria as well, the Syrian leader's brutal crackdown on his own people has ability outraged the world. The U.S. wants Bashar al-Assad out but he's a key Russian ally. And that's all happening at the G-20 summit. That's happening at Los Cabos, Mexico, where we have our Dan Lothian standing by.
Dan, let me just ask you at this meeting, I know we don't know much about it thus far. Hopefully you can shed some light here. This is the first time that President Obama and Vladimir Putin have met since Putin returned to the presidency. What can you tell us about this meeting?
DAN LOTHIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right. I wish I was inside that meeting because you can only imagine that there was some strong exchanges over the issue of Syria. We're still waiting; that meeting began a little more than an hour ago. We're still waiting to get a read out of that meeting. Certainly, Syria, we expect, will be a big focus because the United States has been putting pressure on Russia to come on board with other countries to put the pressure on Syria's president, Bashar al-Assad, to step aside. So far, as you pointed out, Russia, being an ally of Syria, has refused to take that stand and, in fact, twice now has vetoed U.N. resolutions of sanctions on Syria.
The hope of the U.S. administration is that Russia will join in this effort of pushing Syria to a peaceful transition somewhat like what we saw in Yemen, where the leader steps aside, the violence ends and then the reforms to democracy begin. But so far It doesn't appear that Russia will be willing to do that.
BALDWIN: Do we anticipate, Dan, that Syria will be the pervasive topic through this two-day meeting?
LOTHIAN: Well, certainly in discussions with President Obama and President Putin. That's a key issue overall while Syria is being discussed there. The real focus is the Eurozone crisis. A lot of concern about what that will mean not only to the U.S. economy but to the global economy, the fear it will drag not only these leading nations but also developing countries down as well and for the U.S. economy, the concern that it could impact U.S. goods being sold in Europe, which of course Europe being the U.S.'s number one trading partner. That really is the big focus here, but Syria still an important issue as well.
BALDWIN: Dan Lothian for us in Mexico, Dan, thank you so much. All of this comes here as we mentioned at the top of the show, we're learning about this Russian cargo ship that is bound for Syria, allegedly full of weapons. CNN Executive Editor Tim Lister's been tracking this angle.
First, talk to me about what we know about this ship. What, maybe who is on board?
TIM LISTER, CNN EXECUTIVE EDITOR: Right. Well, the ship's registered to a company based in Moscow called Semco (ph) and it left St. Petersburg back at the beginning of June. Appears to have stopped in Kaliningrad on its way out of Baltic, and then entered the North Sea and sort of turned around and headed north the long way around.
BALDWIN: Sort of turned around?
LISTER: Yes, it was strange. Its course really doesn't make a lot of sense. So it then headed north over the top of Scotland. Its last known position was 40 miles off the north Scottish coast headed out into the Atlantic. And it's called the M.B. Alled (ph). It's about 10,000 tons and it's a general freighter.
BALDWIN: I understand the ship has turned off its transponder. Is that -- ?
LISTER: We can't be sure because the systems don't track ships far out to sea. It could be it's just out of range or just, as you say, turned off on its transponder. But it's probably just out of range of the available tracking systems.
BALDWIN: Right. And as you point out, sort of the odd trajectory. What about the registry of the ship? It's been changing.
LISTER: It has been changing. And in fact, at the moment, it's registered in the Netherland Antilles, which is in the Caribbean, but it's owned by a Russian company who claimed for some time that a Danish company was managing it.
And I spoke to the Danish company this morning and they said no. We have nothing to do with this ship. So it's very, very curious. But one interesting thing is that this stopped in Kaliningrad on its way out of the Baltic. That is exactly where the Russians have been refurbishing Syrian attack helicopters. And Barbara Starr, our defense --
BALDWIN: Pentagon correspondent.
LISTER: -- Pentagon correspondent, she was saying U.S. officials believe, maybe three MI-25 assault helicopters on that ship. They would have been refurbished. They were sent to Russia in 2009 from Syria.
BALDWIN: How will we know definitively to go from "there may be" to "there are," and then what can we do about it?
LISTER: It's difficult. You're going to rely on intelligence sources that we don't have on the sort of information that might be available to the CIA or other intelligence agencies in terms of what that ship may be carrying. What can we do about it? Very little.
There are no U.N. Security Council military sanctions on the export of arms. And that's because Russia has repeatedly blocked them, because Syria is a big client of Russia for military equipment. And they have said no. We're not getting caught out in the Libyan thing again, where they kind of lost out. They don't want to see that again. So they've basically blocked any movement towards forbidding arms shipments to Syria.
BALDWIN: So as we watch this ship and its curious trajectory potentially carrying weapons, there's also a military Russian ship headed toward Syria.
LISTER: Well, we believe there are two, actually, that would come out of Sebastopol in the Black Sea fleet, which are amphibious assault ships. Now what they're doing, we can't possibly know. But it's probable that if the Russians are worried about the security of their naval installation in Tartuffe, which is their only overseas port they've got now, especially the only one in the Mediterranean, which is a very important (inaudible) --
BALDWIN: -- care about very much. LISTER: -- they want to make sure that that is secure. So it may well be that they are deploying a small number of troops -- we don't know; I'm speculating here -- to that area to make sure that that base is secure.
BALDWIN: Tim Lister, thank you.
BALDWIN: I'm going to take you here now into the -- deep into the vortex of likelihoods here. It's less likely today that volatile Greece will scrap the euro. And so perhaps more likely that Europe's common currency won't go the way. Take your pick. New Coke -- trust me folks, this is actually -- this is a good thing for us and here's the reason why. Take a look at this.
What you're looking at here -- this is U.S. trade with Europe. Do you see that very large number on your screen? That's $3.6 billion a day. That's a huge cash cow and any threat to the euro would have threatened that particular trade, not to mention as we look at the New York Stock Exchange, these are more numbers we want to share with you, because a hint of a threat would have sent our markets reeling today.
You can see the Dow is down just a smidge. Things have been fairly steady there on the street, crisis averted at least let me say for now.
John, who's in Athens for us, and John, I want to just -- let me walk this back real quickly, because the Greeks got themselves into this horrendous debt crisis. Europe bailed them out, but really turned the screws into Greece. We're talking a decade or more here of economic pain.
You had the Greeks revolting, saying their leaders had knuckled under, saying they wanted out of the euro and the Greeks have now voted over the weekend. The message they sent is what?
JOHN DEFTERIOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, the message is they need to stay in the euro. It's fascinating the way you've set it up, Brooke, because it's incredibly accurate what's at stake here. The Greeks -- if I can use this analogy -- were in this titanic and they were heading to the iceberg, crashing out of the euro and talking about maybe going to the drachma.
That was one party leader was suggesting from the far left. They got very close to the edge here and almost crashed in and then realized, look, this is going to create even more chaos and really bring our wealth down into the country after a recession that's been going on for five years. It's actually a depression.
So they elected to go with the center right party and try to stay in the euro and they know it's going to be more austerity after five years of severe austerity. Their hope right now her is that this government can put a coalition together, go back to Brussels and say you've given us more than $300 billion to get through our troubles. We promise to reform, which has not happened candidly in the last 10 years. But can you give us a little bit more leeway and not have us hit these really stringent budget deficit targets and ask people to take even further pension cuts and pay cuts in the state sector so we can have more time to grow our way out of the crisis? Now whether this goes over well with the European Union or not is not clear at this sort of stage yet.
BALDWIN: You mentioned growing and this next point I want to make just absolutely makes Americans ears perk, because we mention trade with Europe, you know, and that big, you know, billion-dollar, multibillion-dollar number and how the Greek situation could blow that up.
But here is something else. And we talked with the banks here, Greece owes enormous sums to the banks there in Europe. Should Greece default on its debt, those banks, as you very well know, John Defterios, they start to wobble and now it hits home because banks here in the United States are in very, very deep with those banks in Europe because now you're talking potentially about another credit crisis. We all remember what happened back in 2008.
My question to you, then, John, is how big of a role does that possible scenario play out as this conservative party that finished first in the election over the weekend looks to then -- looks for some sort of partner to form a government?
DEFTERIOS: Well, they're looking for partners as we speak. In fact, one meeting is taking place in the parliament right now, so they're trying to get that done in the next 72 hours. To be specific on the banking crisis, Europe is a broader market of 550 million consumers. It sucks in 25 percent of U.S. exports.
A quarter of U.S. exports go to Europe. You do have that banking exposure from the U.S. into the European banks, right now in the front line of the French and the German banks. And if they have troubles it does spill into the global markets and the so-called contagion potential is there.
What I find fascinating -- you were talking to Dan Lothian before -- is there's a G-20 summit. Back in 2009, when we had the global financial crisis, everybody was willing to step up and provide liquidity.
What many economists are suggesting right now is that this is a huge market. If the Eurozone continues to unravel, they'll need to do so now. They've been rather complacent about it. Germany's calling for more austerity in Greece, and it's not providing a solution.
Greece has a problem, Brooke. If this goes into Spain and into Italy, we're looking at economies of $1.4 trillion in Spain, $2 trillion Italy, it becomes the world's problems, not just Greece at $300 billion. It's a much, much bigger scale.
BALDWIN: It's huge. And you bring up the liquidity and another question is, you know, should Washington at all help? But I'm going to save that for next hour. I'm kind of curious as to what Richard Quest says to that. John Defterios, so we truly appreciate you and your reporting there for us from Athens.
Meantime, a lot more news coming into us here. Watch.
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BALDWIN: Two weeks ago he walked the stage at his graduation and today he is gone, shot to death and as police are looking for his killer, there's now word this young man was targeted. I'm Brooke Baldwin. The news is now.
Plus Alanis Morissette got a lot of folks talking when she revealed her parenting style. You will hear the singer defend herself to me. What is best for each child.
And moments of terror, a man helps a driver escape a burning car, but then he runs off and disappears. Well, during this show I'll speak with him live.
And a CNN exclusive. It's rare Bruce Springsteen does interviews, but on this "Music Monday,' you're going to hear his candid comments when asked about anger in America.
BALDWIN: A Texas family's celebratory trip to Orlando is shattered by gunfire and now a mother must bury her son as she begs the public to help find his killer.
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DAPHNE CANNON, VICTIM'S MOTHER: I came here with my child, and now I'm leaving without him.
BALDWIN (voice-over): That was Daphne Cannon. She brought her only son, Dino, to Orlando to celebrate his high school graduation and his college prospects. But at a downtown club early Friday morning some guy was giving grief to Dino's sister. So Dino stepped in and got the guy kicked out.
Later that night Dino and his sisters, leaving the club. Police believe the guy they got kicked out was waiting outside with a gun. Eighteen-year-old Dino, who was an outstanding student and football star, was shot dead.
DAPHNE CANNON: I don't understand why but I'm asking if you would please, please give us some information so that we might find this person.
DINO CANNON, VICTIM'S FATHER: Cameras, video pictures from that night. Just send the stuff so they can catch this guy. I would appreciate your help as a father, as a friend. BALDWIN (voice-over): Well, it turns out someone did come forward with some cell phone video here and we showed you some of that. That was taken from that night. Orlando police are looking at all the clues in this one, but they are still looking for the gunman.
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BALDWIN: Are you feeling stressed out? You're not alone. We'll tell you which Americans are likely to feel under pressure lately. And the son of rocker Ozzie Osbourne is angry after being diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. Our senior medical correspondent, Elizabeth Cohen, she's going to tell us what that's all about.
BALDWIN: If it's interesting, you're about to see it. "Rapid Fire," roll it.
First up here, six dates, five days, Mitt Romney's bus tour pulling into its next stop this hour, that being Dubuque, Iowa. He's trying to connect with voters in six states that President Obama won in 2008 and many potential vice presidential picks are joining him, including Senator Rob Portman and Congressman Paul Ryan.
An off-duty New Jersey police officer may have lured fellow officers into this standoff in Pennsylvania. Doylestown (ph) Township Police got a call about some kind of an argument. When they arrived they found a note that said the suspect had 2,000 rounds of ammunition.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All apparent indications is that is correct. He was anticipating our arrival, anticipating our response, which made it even more difficult and more dangerous.
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BALDWIN: Police say Richard Clementovich (ph) barricaded himself in the house. The standoff., as I mentioned, lasted just about 10 hours. He is in jail under $1 million bond.
The elections are over in Egypt. The power struggle is not. The Muslim Brotherhood claims its candidate, Mohamed Morsi, the new president here and while the current ruling military council is promising to hand over control, it is keeping many powers for itself now that parliament is dissolved.
A bomb rips apart a bus carrying college students in Pakistan, four people are dead, 40 are injured. It's not clear yet as to who is responsible, but we're told the area where it happened has been targeted by militants who oppose co-ed schooling.
And you may have already felt it. We now have new research to prove it. Americans, we're stressed out more than ever before. Check this out. Stress increased 18 percent in women, 24 percent in men. These are between the years 1983 to 2009, it's according to this new information, new data from a Carnegie Mellon University study, but how about this? The study also found those with highest stress are the ladies, people with lower income and less education.
I know so many people, they watch the show, watch him grow up, launched really the reality TV show craze. I'm talking about Jack Osbourne, son of Ozzie and Sharon Osbourne. He's now 26 years of age, just became a dad. He also just announced he has multiple sclerosis. It's MS, potentially debilitating.
What happens is this: your body immune's system eats away at the sheath that covers your nerves. So in turn this interferes with how your brain communicates with the rest of your body. I want to bring in senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen here with -- I guess whatever I've heard about MS, I assumed it was hereditary.
ELIZABETH COHEN, SR. MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: No, usually not. Most of the time it's just chance and you just get it. Now if someone in your family had it, that does increase your chances that you'll get it. But plenty of people just get it for -- who knows. (Inaudible).
BALDWIN: Is it more men? Is it more women?
COHEN: Women are twice as likely to get MS, but men do get MS, as we've seen here.
BALDWIN: Tell me a little bit about another public person who has had it. We've heard about Ann Romney. Doesn't she enjoy horseback riding, sort of as part of her therapy?
COHEN: Yes, people with MS do do physical therapy often, anything that sort of strengthens and stretches is always good. And then there are other treatments, of course. There are drugs that can slow the progression of the disease, not cure it. That, unfortunately, we can't do. But they can slow the progression of the disease.
The other thing they can do is when an attack comes on, there are drugs that can lessen the severity of those attacks. But this is unfortunately something that people live with for a lifetime. The drugs help, but they still suffer from this disease.
BALDWIN: There's no full-on treatment?
BALDWIN: It doesn't go away.
COHEN: There is no cure. It doesn't go away. It doesn't. And it often attacks people in their 20s, 30s, 40s. So he's right in that age range.
BALDWIN: OK. Elizabeth Cohen, thank you. COHEN: Thanks.
BALDWIN: Paul Ryan, he has a new political enemy: nuns. You'll hear why they are on the road rallying against Republicans. We'll go live to Rome for that.
Plus Alanis Morissette, she defends herself here. I was talking to her about her controversial parenting style, also the music as well. Don't miss that conversation.
BALDWIN: A group of Catholic nuns are taking aim at the current House Republican budget plan and its author, Congressman Paul Ryan. They are on this two-week bus tour to protest the plan, saying it hurts the poor, hurts the vulnerable.
This "Nuns on the Bus" tour comes just as we're hearing about the so-called rogue nuns. So all this week here on CNN, we're going to take you in-depth on Catholics in America and their relationship with the Church.
Let me bring in CNN senior Vatican analyst John Allen joining me now.
And John, question, here, question number one, why does it seem lately, you know, with all these different stories, that the American Catholic women here are at odds with the Vatican, why?
JOHN ALLEN, CNN SR. VATICAN ANALYST: Hey, Brooke, well, you know, I've put that very question to the Vatican senior doctrinal official, who is an American, a guy by the name of Cardinal William Lavada (ph) in an exclusive interview I had with him this week.
I said, "Why are you picking on nuns," and his answer was, "We're not," that these things would have come up, that is the standoff with the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, the main umbrella group for nuns in the States, a recent censure of a theologian, who's also a nun by the name of Sister Margaret Farley (ph) and other things.
They would argue these are not connected. They are independent issues and there's no Vatican orchestrated campaign to bring the nuns in line. That said, there are a lot of people looking at what's been going on in recent works, and they can't avoid drawing the conclusion that there's a tension here, at least, between where many American nuns are and where the Vatican seems to be.
BALDWIN: There does, absolutely seems to be a tension, even though they say they are not picking on nuns. I mean, I guess just sort of bigger picture, has the Vatican view of the American Catholic Church? It's certainly changed over the years.
ALLEN: Yes, it has. Even as recently as 15 years ago when I started covering this beat, Brooke, I think the Vatican for the most part, the mainstream culture here, still had a pretty negative take on the United States generally. They saw it as a Protestant culture, shaped by Calvinism, weren't sure they could trust it. They thought that the traditional Catholic countries of western Europe really were their best friends.
But what's happened in the intervening period is that with runaway secularism in Europe, the Vatican now sort of sees the United States as its best ally, its natural dialogue partner, if you like, on the global stage. So there's a much more positive outlook in some ways. But the payoff for that is it means they pay more attention now to the United States, which has both its positives and its negatives. And, of course, there are some nuns on a bus right now who can talk to you about some of those negatives.
There are indeed nuns on a bus. But you bring up secularism. We found some numbers. Roman Catholics are the second largest group here in the United States. But it is seeing an exodus of members in recent decades. They say one in 10 Americans now is an ex-Catholic. Is the Vatican worried at all about that?
ALLEN: Well, I mean, sure the Vatican is worried any time they see people streaming out of the church, obviously, and it's true that the Catholic Church in the United States loses about four members for every one new member it gains. Now there still are about 4 million new Catholics every year. And of course, the Catholic share of the American population is holding steady at around 25 percent despite those losses because they are also gaining huge numbers of new Catholics in the form of immigrants from Mexico and from Latin America.
Those immigrants have higher birth rates. The other point the Vatican would make is OK, maybe we're losing ground in Europe and in some parts of the United States, but globally they would say things are growing like gang busters.
The Catholic Church in Africa during the 20th Century grew 7,000 percent. So they would argue that globally this is actually not a time of decline. It's a time of mammoth expansion.
BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: So globally, it's the Vatican is happy. But still (inaudible) Americans ex-Catholic, I didn't realize that until earlier today. John Allen, thank you so much for us there in Rome.
Now to music here, Alanis Morisette, she is now mixing her music with motherhood. She shares her controversial stance on breastfeeding in a candid interview with me. That's next.
BALDWIN: Alanis Morisette, she rocketed to the top of the charts back in the mid-90s on raw emotion. She went onto sell millions of albums and collected a total of seven Grammys.
Well, now, she is mixing marriage, motherhood and music as she gets ready to release a new album this summer. I talked with Alanis. Here is what she told me.
BALDWIN: Alanis, it is so nice to see you. Let's first just begin with you being a mom. You have recently sort of jumped into the fray with the much talked about "Time" magazine cover, the mom, you know, breastfeeding her 3-year-old son. You have an 18-month-old son. What's your approach to raising him?
ALANIS MORISETTE, SINGER: My approach is as best as possible without being a perfectionist attempting to nail this first stage of development, which is attachment.
It segue ways into the exploration stage and I think that's what's sort of a hot topic in this big conversation is when is the segue way time into that exploration stage.
And I think the opportunity to trust that a child will wean themselves is not only something to be trusted, but it's also something that does require a lot of time and not everybody has that time.
BALDWIN: You're so right though. It has become such a hot topic. I mean, let's just call it a lot of noise. Noise about mothering in the news.
We talked recently about -- it was Alicia Silverstone, right? She was blogging about, you know, chewing up food and it's sort of like a mama bird to a baby bird, you know, feeding her own child.
And then you also have, you know, a lot of talk about moms sleeping with their itty, bitty ones and there's fear, you know, the mom could roll over.
I mean, what do you make of all this back and forth? Should it really be up to each individual mom how to raise their own kid?
MORISETTE: Well, ultimately, it is up to each family how to raise their children. I know that what bonds us all in this conversation is that we all want to do what's best for our children and it begs the question what is best for each child.
I think all of us really want to nail that first stage of development so that our children in the future as adults will be capable of intimacy and connection. They'll know they exist.
It's such a big part of that first stage, the touch, the skin on skin, the consistency, the parents -- the parental figures being constant. It really does give the sense to this child, you know for application later in life that they exist.
That they can trust life. That they are connected. It's a really great foundation to offer your child I think.
BALDWIN: You seem like in such a different place. I was just a fan from many years ago, you know, from jagged little pill and here you are like almost in this zen garden talking about being a mom. I have to talk about music with you, right? Because you have this new album coming out, it's called "Havoc and Bright Lights." Alanis, what does that even mean?
MORISETTE: "Havoc" is a title of the one of the songs on the record. It talks about recovering from different kinds of addictions.
You know, so many of us are taught not to feel and when the attachment stage is thwarted in a lot of ways, I think it does make for some addictive tendencies later in life.
We're craving that connection and that warmth and that love and tenderness, and we find it in whatever way we can. So that's the "Havoc" part.
And then "Bright Lights" is about the sense of spirit that threads throughout the whole record and my life and bright lights of fame, you know, being a celebrity in the white hot heat.
BALDWIN: We have this picture of you. I'm guessing it's your band and your little one here, which is sort of like, you know, the Alanis Morisette tour like 2.0. How do you balance it all?
MORISETTE: Basically, you know, being a mom is 100 percent and being a vocational artist, as I like to call it, is 100 percent and frankly, being a wife is 100 percent because I value marriage and commitment and the healing that comes from that so much. So I'm offering 300 percent from a limited capacity.
BALDWIN: Do you really have 300 percent of you?
MORISETTE: No, of course not. So that just means coffee is my best friend and the odd well time massage from my husband or otherwise and just, you know, holding it together.
I think the parenting aspect of this, the heavy lifting as such, will dissipate when they are much older and I'll look back and I'll have amnesia.
BALDWIN: Alanis Morisette's new album is "Havoc and Bright Lights." It is so nice to see you. Thank you.
BALDWIN: Used to play her music a little too loud back in the day. By the way, we'll put that up on the blog, cnn.com/brooke.
Moments of terror, a man help a driver escape a burning car. He runs off though after doing so, disappears. Just ahead, we're going to speak with him live.
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BALDWIN: Talk about a Good Samaritan here. I want to show you some video. This woman here is trapped inside her car. You see the smoke, trapped inside this car at a toll plaza near Houston.
She had lost control and crashed, flipped over. You see the fire. Out of nowhere, you see the guy banging with a fire extinguisher and watch as he risks his own life.
You see him pulling her out to safety. She is Nancy Decker. She amazingly survived with only a broken heel. But guess what, she couldn't thank the man who saved her life because he left the scene just as quickly as he had arrived. Watch this.
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NANCY DECKER, RESCUED FROM TOLL BOOTH: He's my guardian angel. He really is. I have a hero. God put him there.
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BALDWIN: A hero. Nearly two weeks later, we finally know exactly who this hero is. He's Staff Sergeant Mitchell Corbin. He's good enough to join me on the phone from Houston.
Staff Sergeant Corbin, wow. I have all kinds of questions as far as why and the how. But I got to ask why did you run away?
MITCHELL CORBIN, STAFF SERGEANT, TEXAS AIR NATIONAL GUARD (via telephone): Well, I was actually running a few errands before I was supposed to be at the airport to fly back home for some leave to visit with some of my family and friends, and my girlfriend.
BALDIWN: So you were, let me just make sure I'm hearing you right. You were running late to the airport, so you just saved a life and then off you went?
CORBIN: Yes, it's something like that. It was kind of a weird little pit stop in between running errands that I didn't think I would come across, but yes, it actually happened.
BALDWIN: Wow, so what exactly did you see? We're looking at video, huge smoke and huge flames. Why did you do this?
CORBIN: Well, I just felt like somebody needed to jump in and take care of the situation because, you know, I saw fire. I saw a lady screaming.
I knew I had to step up because the officers were trying to get a hold of the squad and the fire department. No one was hitting the situation. They were helping in other ways. I figured I'd step in and take care of it.
BALDWIN: I'm just curious, in your time with the Texas Air National Guard, is this something you had done before or not at all? CORBIN: No. This is probably one of the first emergency response situations that I've actually come across. So it's just nice being a buddy carrying instructor, which essentially is a first aid instructor to be able to go through and actually all those training came in handy after about six or seven years.
BALDWIN: I'm assuming when you were pulling her out, she was unconscious, yes?
CORBIN: She was very, very, how do you say it, confused of her whereabouts. She knew to just reach up. She saw me looking in there trying to get a hold of her and get her to safety.
So she just reached out. You know, her seat belt was off thankfully. I was able to get her out of there.
CORBIN: So have you met her yet? Had she had a chance in person to say thank you.
CORBIN: Yes, well, a few people got a hold of me and gave me her name. Last Friday, we were actually able to go meet with her and you know, discuss everything that happened and what was going on.
It was really nice to be able to speak with her and go over everything. We exchanged hugs and how things are now. It's really nice.
BALDWIN: That is awesome. Staff Sergeant Mitchell Corbin, we need more people in the world like you. Thank you so much for taking the time to call in. Appreciate it.
CORBIN: Yes, not a problem.
BALDWIN: It is "Music Monday." Today's band went from playing coffee shops to rocking the stage at Lollapalooza. If only their hit single was easier to say.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We don't talk about that unless you say it right.
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BALDWIN: It's a tongue twister. Wait until you hear why you've heard of these guys.
BALDWIN: I bet like a lot of you actually first I heard today's artist in an Apple iPod commercial. But so much has happened to the dream pop band, Chairlift, even since then. The trio became a duo. They have signed on to major festivals like Lollapalooza over the summer.
And they released a sophomore album that's a giant creative leap forward from their debut. It's pretty impressive considering the band really kind of started almost by accident. Here is today's "Music Monday, Chairlift."
CAROLINE POLACHEK, "CHAIRLIFT": The song is about being invisible. When we first started out we were making these kinds of ambient sound tracks that we wanted to be played in haunted houses. What lost our edge in the haunted house market is we kept writing songs over them.
BALDWIN: I'm still back on the -- we want an edge in the haunted house market.
POLACHEK: You know, we're entrepreneurs here.
BALDWIN: "Bruises," that's when I thought who is that thanks to the Nano commercial. When did you go from, those are guys from the iPod Nano commercial to that's "Chairlift?"
POLACHEK: It happened really quickly. As soon as that commercial came out, our record also came out and we signed at Columbia Records. All of a sudden, we found ourselves like I had just graduated from college and was suddenly on tour for about a year half. So we weren't even entirely aware of how the outside world is perceiving us.
BALDWIN: So did it happen pretty quickly? I mean, you're in college one day in class. You're on tour. You're signing with Columbia. Now you're already on album two.
POLACHEK: The commercial hit while I was in finals in the school. So it was just really so real a couple of weeks.
BALDWIN: Explain to me, Patrick, how this second album is a little bit different than the first.
PATRIC WIMBERLY, "CHAIRLIFT": We had a better idea of what we wanted to do from the moment we started working on it. We wanted it to be more aggressive and energetic than the first record.
BALDWIN: Talk about some of the places where you recorded the new album.
WIMBERLY: We started working on this record in the back of an antique shop in Brooklyn. Just a little room with a piano.
BALDWIN: What is "Chairlift?" We're in the room. This is "Chairlift." I mean, what literally is the name it came from? What does it signify?
POLACHEK: The name doesn't have a very glamorous story. I came up with a list of about 100 band names.
BALDWIN: Were you skiing?
POLACHEK: I was procrastinating from doing a French homework. It represents a long slow assent over a changing landscape. Our music is kind of like that.
BALDWIN: Let's talk about, and I'm not going to say this right.
WIMBERLY: We don't talk about it unless you say it right.
POLACHEK: That, I think, is our favorite song. I'm just going to go ahead and say that. We did a music video for it.
BALDWIN: You're rocking a sea foam green body suit, your idea?
BALDWIN: You're in a band and you're successful. You're going up and up and up. What's that like being up there?
POLACHEK: The new record is really fun to play with. We didn't think about how it would be to play live.
WIMBERLY: It's better than before.
BALDWIN: Caroline and Patrick, thanks so you both. From "Chairlift," also thank you. Make sure you check out all of our "Music Monday" interviews. We pop them on the blog, cnn.com/brooke.
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Plus a mother takes the stand in the Jerry Sandusky trial reveals why she pushed her son to spend the night at Sandusky's home.
BALDWIN: The defense has presented its very first witnesses in the child abuse trial of former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky.
The trial we've just learned here. It has adjourned for the day. Things are moving pretty quickly. Let's bring in "In Session" correspondent, Jean Casarez who is standing by there for us.
How soon? Do we have any idea how soon the jury could actally get this case?
JEAN CASAREZ, CORRESPONDENT "IN SESSION" ON TRUTV: Thursday could be closing arguments. The defense may rest on Wednesday at noon. Then it's onto closing arguments so there could be a verdict by the end of the week.
BALDWIN: All right, so today, Jean, the defense witnesses had some, shall we say, unexpected testimony. Tell me about who these people were and what they said.
CASAREZ: Totally unexpected. First of all, it's all about football in this defense case and all about the hours that you play football as a coach and the defense is trying to show you wouldn't have time to do anything with these young boys because you're coaching.
But it was on cross-examination by the commonwealth and the prosecutor asked the question, so are you aware of all the time that Jerry Sandusky spent in showers with little boys. The response was, I do it too.
And the prosecutor says 11-year-old little boys. Sure, he says. He went onto say that at YMCA and Penn State that he had showered with them too.
BALDWIN: But then when they were cross examined and asked if they touched these boys, right? Didn't they have an answer to that?
CASAREZ: Right. Did you invite them in yourself, did you touch them and did you lift them up into the air? The answer was no, no, no. But it was still a theme it's normal to do and there is nothing wrong with it.
BALDWIN: The prosecution, we know that they rested earlier today before the witnesses took the stand that you're just describing. The prosecution presented this final witness. She was a mother of one of the accusers. What did she say?
CASAREZ: Mother of accuser number nine. She said that her son met Jerry Sandusky and that he invited her little boy to some games and to his home. What did you think of that? It was great.
It was Jerry Sandusky. He's a very important man. So it went on two to three times a week. He'd spend the night at the house for three to four years. Her son would say, finally, you know, mom, I don't want to go anymore.
She said I would push him because he had male role model and we didn't have father in the home. She finally said that her son called her up one night at 11:00 p.m. and said I got to come home, I'm sick. She said she just never asked him what was wrong. Now she wished that she had, but she still doesn't want to know because she is concerned it will be too graphic and he won't tell her.
BALDWIN: So she still doesn't know. Yet, she took the stand being the final witness for the prosecution. Final question, bigger picture, Jean, as far as the defense strategy goes, we talked about this Friday. They are claiming that Jerry Sandusky has some kind of personality disorder. What is that?
CASAREZ: That's right. Histrionic personality disorder, that someone just wants attention and they are very aggressive with everything they do even sexually aggressive because they just want attention. It's not for a sexual purpose.
But the fact is it's the act that is important and that is what prosecutors are alleging. But their expert will take the stand and then state psychologist, the commonwealth psychologist will be able to take the stand to rebut all that.
Because they assess Jerry Sandusky we believe yesterday so duelling psychologists on Jerry Sandusky.
BALDWIN: OK, we'll check in back with you tomorrow and perhaps you will be right that this will then be handed over to the jury about Wednesday or Thursday. Jean Casarez for us in Pennsylvania, Jean, thank you. And now roll it.